I believe a basic understanding of "repentance" is necessary. Repentance from the scriptural point of view is a deep regret from past sins and a turning away from evil. In the deepest sense ability to repent comes from God who knows the heart of men. The devil's destiny was sealed in that he conceived evil in the absence of none and hence cannot repent. Therefore the supposition that he can repent is a nullity.
Is that so what makes meks me crazy http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=16387.msg1172535#msg1172535
You work 4 da Devil. Look how u try to pervert mindz and Decept in both thread
and this i s what i do pt1 http://video.onlinenigeria.com/Drama/ad1.asp?blurb=960
pt2 one nation/one God http://video.onlinenigeria.com/premiumvideos/ad11.asp?blurb=961
pt3 one natio, one God http://video.onlinenigeria.com/Drama/ad1.asp?blurb=962
this negative talks lately by nairalanders, against islams, won't their comments attract A religious violence in Naija again?. So basicall dissin Yoruba Muslims along with Al Qaedas 2gether. THough, only one is acting up. Am am sorry but i just can't ignore them. Its better to fix and correct rather than ignoring-as the same trouble(s) maker will end up back on your path. Or on the paths of your future seed. And yes I do know the answer is not aguments, so then what would it be
pt 4 one nation one God http://video.onlinenigeria.com/premiumvideos/ad11.asp?blurb=963
Read ur bible.The devil cannot repent.tHERE is no need in talking abt this because if he does, its like we calling the lord a lier cos he said that his words will not go without accomplishing the reasons why he said, The lord already talked abt the last dayz and what to expect.The prophecies of God must be fulfilled,
The validity of the Bible does not hinge on whether or not the
devil repents. The devil by default is beyond repentance - he
cannot repent even if he tried, and we wouldn't have to wait all
this time to see if his repentance lies within the realms of any
possibility. He will simply go headlong as is predicted in the Bible,
and his end will be disastrous. QED.
the devil wont come because he aint real guys c'mon if he were real life would b bad very bad.There would be no good because the devil would use his powers to destroy the lord i know that its a theory the devils powers got taken away but ey u never know,the devil coulb b a misunderstood guy if he were real.So ey dont worry sweeties and dont ya think its a good piont of view coming from a 11 year old girl?.So thereofore the devil wont repent.
Im going to live my life doing what it is I do and I may decide at the last minute to say sorry for any wrong Ive done
( nothing too terrible mind you) and I will be forgiven thats what it said in my bible ( before I threw it away) Far as I see it only in my opinion mind not to cause controversy you get one life, live it best you can you only live once do whats in your heart but it better be good and not completely evil like paedophilia and then you can rest easy, having harmed no one intentionally.
The measure of the person you are is in your deeds and words not one or the other. Thier is only one person fity to judge and thats supposed to be God, he dont scare me but I dont judge my fellow man, I accept their difference as long as that difference harms no one. How many wars would their be if we all did that?
Devil Pah!!! God Pah!!!! Free will is a gift we all have, how we use it depends on upbringing and conscience. Its a big job we as Parents have. There is a world of difference between good and evil and a lot of influence goes a long way to swing it the in right direction.
that in itself is your own opinion..............and indeed inspiration is an opinion, or how else do we describe it, God's? but then your opinion comes from the things and situations your senses have been trained for by reason of use.use how? by learning at the feet of christ, on your knees and communion with the holy spirit, it can't be learnt from the web or NL
The devil isn't a force or personification of any sort.
He is a real angel who had been defeated by Jesus over 2000 years ago. He is the leader of the group of angels that rebeled against God and who were kicked out of heaven. He has his network of demons with which he does havoc all over the earth.
He seeks to destroy all men but he donsnt live in or have dominion over all men... Because there are those who live and reign with God in dominin over sin and the devil.
...a breed of people who have been made superior to satan and to whom have been given the instruction form Jesus to cast out devils!
He lives in the unregenerated man. He controls this man and the man, no matter how he tries remains under his condemnation.
He however speaks to people's minds...but it dosnt mean we have to accept what he says.
9For in him( Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
We were dead in sins but Jesus has made us alive!
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Jesus made an open show of the devil and his cohorts in hell. He spoiled them ( if you can imagine when soldiers go to war and come back with the spoils of war- every thing of value belonging to the enemy).
They have been disarmed!...but for lack of knowledge, God's people perish.
This is why there is so many denomination and religion. We do all have different understanding of God based on our different experiences in life.
A man is a product of its enviroment, your very best understanding of life is based on what you have been able to see, hear and learn in life. And that understanding is taken into personal understanding of other things in life for e.g GOD. Despite that Bible provide the facts about him, it takes understanding (through the Holy Spirit if I may add) to really know who God really is. Nevertheless human understanding still ulter that definitive understanding of GOD.
So in all in all. There will be no definitive answer to this myth.
It can't be changed. Consider Adam as an instance. Can you imagine him recieving God's forgiveness? Sinning willfully when one has full knowledge of christ may be considered as the sin against the holy spirit. The bible states clearly that in the case of those who grieve the holy spirit, 'there is no more forgiveness of sins left' for the have taken 'as ordinary' the blood of the lord Jesus Christ.
The problem is that most of us sin willfully. God alone know how he'll accomodate us. He reads the heart and can tell our deepest intension and motives. 'May we never fall in the hands of the living God' !
Sorry, I explained how predestination and free will can co-exists in that, and it takes more than 7 or 8 lines to explaining it, i mean it's complicated. Haven't you seen on other threads people writting posts just as long? I always read them... i don't see why you all can't.
i Did Not say anything about that. I simply was explaining how predestination and freewill can co-exists.
However, my personal opinion on if the devil repented today. ( I did not say this in my earlier post).
If the devil repented today and God let him come back to Heaven. I would probably kill myself. And i am not joking. Because the devil repenting would mean that the Bible has a lie in it. Meaning that the Bible is completely useless. Which means that Jesus would not be God's son, which means... my entire life is a lie. My entire life is based on my relationship with Jesus. I would sooner believe that we actually live on Mars, My hands are made out of chocolate, little Green men live in my mind, 1+1=fish, Hitler is my dad, mother Theresa is my mom, I'm actually a guy, gravity doesn't exist, this is all a dream and when i wake up i will be still 7 years old, an alien, and my life since year 7 of my life has all been just simply a dream. i sooner believe this than Jesus not being God's son. I am hopeless without Jesus. And so if i found out that the devil repented today, that would all be a lie. and i would probably kill myself.
Even if the devil repents it will not be acceptable to the almighty God, because God is holy and will always punish any offender. There is only one way that God can forgive - through JESUS CHRIST. When the devil looked for the way of salvation, he could not find it because there must be faith. Rge devi has none. Again the way of repentance is noy opened to demons. Its only to humans.
Do I make myself clear
I have read all your postings and replies, they are all in the same direction..."devil can never repent."...I wish you all to reflect on the http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-4360.0.html abuout Human Free Will and God's all knowing knowledge
All responces tends to agree that the devil is doomed from the onset, same way Esau was doomed from before birth, same way Judas Iscariot was doomed before Jesus ever stepped on planet earth.....then where does the idea of free will comes in?
Please correect me if I am wrong....
I believe strongly that there is a higher being or power that determines what happens and that we have no say in what we do or how we do them..or what happens to us or whatever.
My arguement is still open....
It is impossible for the devil to repent.
Repent from what? He has already been cast out. He has already been judged.
In fact, it is not his wish to repent since he is still filled with pride and rebellion against God for giving man the place (at the right hand of the father in heaven - that place of authority and power) which he had always coveted.
This is the reason he roams about trying to decieve men, turning them away from what is already theirs in christ so as to ensure their condemnation with him for eternity.
The sentence has already been passed on him.
He is doomed to the eternal lake of fire.
@Ka na wa o! hmm. u saw hell with ur eyes and u still manage to get to nairaland to talk about it? and by the way, who told u devil has vice devil et al? those are human inventions.
you remind me of one old charlatan, evangelist dagunduro, who said he was the devil's second in command? Devil use fickle humans as second in command? of course it is a f**king lie. the bible said the devil doesnt sleep or go on vacation. the vice positions are for humans who r too weak to go on for ever. God/Jesus do not have vice to help out coz they can do i all.
Ka, next time u get to hell, I bet u should just stay there...
Those who think that the repentance of the Devil will mean an end of wickedness and suffering are sadly deluded.
Let me tell you, as someone who has seen Hell with my own two korokoro eyes, I can tell you that there are many, many other capable demons waiting to take over.
There's the aptly named Vice-Devil, Assistant Devil, Lieutentant-Devil, Acting Devil, Devil's Right Hand Demon, Devil's Left Hand Demon, Demon In Charge of Torture, Demon In Charge of Stoking the Fires of Hell, in fact the list is endless... and they all pray that the Devil should repent one day, too!