can i apply for visa and travel out with a pregnancy?5 months?
@ tpia yea there are mostly elites who can even afford to send their kids to university and pay international fees, but are too greedy to do so, but there are also the few ones whom are not very wealthy and i suspect the lady from the uk border agency prgogram is not one of the elites maybe i may be wrong
You can apply for visa to any country you want as long as you have sufficient proof that you can support yourself financially and will not be a burden to to the tax payers of the host country. Meaning you can afford to pay for your child-bearing hospital bill and other expenses while there. Hope that helps!!
you're quite right. However, most of the people going abroad to have kids, are elites, rich, and their kids would still have a good life anyway regardless where they were born.
Having them abroad is mainly so the kids wont have to apply for visa in the future and also to help the parents escalate even higher socially (as per future visa)- that's mainly what the kids are good for apart from being abroadees).
The actual poor people who are suffering, would not have access to visa talkless travel abroad to have their kids.
Just a different viewpoint.
Its quite common knowledge everywhere too.
Of course not every Nigerian having their kid overseas is rich, but chances are most would be.
I hope the U.S. makes a constitutional amendment that will deny citizenship to the children of parents who are neither U.S. citizens nor U.S. residents, nor parents who do not intend to permanently reside in the U.S. Having your baby in the U.S. then going back home with the hopes of bringing that baby eighteen years later to reap the benefits of a country that you have contributed nothing is an extreme parasitic behavior. The tax payers and people who were contributing to the U.S. economy for the period during which the anchor baby was in Naija are not fools. While I am willing to give some slack to the parents who can afford--and do pay--their medical bills, the most disgusting part is that most of these parents accumulate exorbitant medical bills just to abandon them. It gives Nigerians a very bad name, and I will not sanction any behavior that further tarnishes the already tarnished Nigerian image.
true, but imo you take the lemons life gives you and either make lemonade or suck on them.
Its a tough world and life is no fairytale.
I see your point however.
but for example, some people have no fathers at all, or have fathers who arent there for them. They should still do the best they can with whatever they've been given.
^^ not everyone had to get on a molue abeg.
Some private schools have their own buses which drop kids off at school with no overcrowding.
I see your point however since we all know the majority had to enter molue.
In any case, if you lived in lagos and never entered molue, thats strange,imo. Na excessive ajebota be that.
Look lets set the records straight and lets keep this real.
Too many people are faking it sometimes on Nairaland talking
a load of bull instead of helping people out who just want to make things
better for themselves!!!
I just wanna drop some points for the record
1 - If you were born abroad ie USA, Britain which are the main countries 90% of People
who are of Nigerian Parentage where born in and was raised their to the age of 13 years
plus before you came to nigeria to finish high school or secondary school then you
should understand that Nigeria is no Holiday Retreat to say the least.
2 - If you were born abroad in the US or Nigeria and they brought you back to Nigeria
before you gained self-awareness ie 6 years, then you are not really going to have
a solid perspective of being abroad and their is a likelyhood of you carry a chip on your
shoulder because you have the probability of easy access abroad may make you feel you
are in a better position than others.
3 - If you were born in Nigeria, but your parents have the money to take you abroad
on holiday or whatever and they had the cash to send you to University abroad
you gonna have another perspective
4 - If you were born in Nigeria, but you came abroad by your own effore "LEGALLY"
your going to have another Perpective!!!
O.k i fall into Catergory one and i can say that catergory 2 & 3 sometimes live in kookoo
and "pride & arrogance land" when i was in my secondary school in Nigeria !!!
But what i have learned from being born abroad and raised half 2/3 of my life abroad and 1/3 in Nigeria is not it gave me balance and respect for those Nigerians who were born
abroad and never came to Nigeria and those born in Nigeria and have never travelled and those who are born in nigeria and outside nigeria that have seen both sides,
People are just trying to better themselves, i know how it was to wake up and go to school
and get on the "Molue bus" and the struggles i faced, and i know how it was to get on a bus
that came at a set time and was comfortable as we rode to school which dropped you at the
school gate abroad,
Lets just help one-another becuase life is to precious to be "Player-hating"
children of first generation immigrants are called anchor babies- generally a derogatory term. Oyibos know exactly what's going on oh.
According to the Double-Tongued Dictionary, edited by American lexicographer Grant Barrett, the term "anchor baby" means "a child born of an immigrant in the United States, said to be a device by which a family can find legal foothold in the US, since those children are automatically allowed to choose American citizenship." In response to a reader's proposed alternate definition seeking to limit the definition of the term to children of illegal immigrants, Grant Barrett states:
, it is used for *any* immigrant. Those who use this term tend to be opposed to *all* immigration and immigrants, not illegal immigration, especially those who use their immigration stance as a mask for racism and xenophobia.
The term has been applied with prejudice against Mexican Americans and other Latinos in general, even if their parents are U.S. citizens. For example, Ruben Navarrette Jr., a Mexican American columnist and editorial board member of The San Diego Union-Tribune and nationally syndicated columnist with the Washington Post Writers Group, reported being called an "anchor baby" in a 2007 column of his, titled Hate in the Immigration Debate":
And, as I travel the country speaking to Hispanic groups, one thing I hear is that “anti-immigrant” rapidly morphed into “anti-Hispanic” and specifically “anti-Mexican.” I get evidence of that every day in my e-mail. Just last week, after I defended the prosecution of two Border Patrol agents, a reader called me a “dirty Latino” who needs to get “back to Mexico.” Another writer called me an “anchor baby” – the term used by nativists to describe the children of illegal immigrants born in the United States. Never mind that I was born in the United States and my parents were born in the United States. What I see here is racism.
Conservative commentator Michelle Malkin — herself born in the United States to alien parents who were legally, temporarily in the U.S. at the time — has asserted that "the custom of granting automatic citizenship at birth to children of tourists and temporary workers such as [Yaser Esam] Hamdi, tourists, and to countless 'anchor babies' delivered by illegal aliens on American soil, undermines the integrity of citizenship—not to mention national security.
In a September 3, 2008, debate in Danville, Virginia, Republican Congressman Virgil Goode declared that the greatest threat to America's national security was "anchor babies". He discussed H.R. 1940, the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007" that would amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to consider a person born in the United States "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States for citizenship at birth purposes if the person is born in the United States of parents, one of whom is: (1) a U.S. citizen or national; (2) a lawful permanent resident alien whose residence is in the United States; or (3) an alien performing active service in the armed forces. Goode argued that H.R. 1940 would "end the anchor baby situation", and he blamed Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the fact that H.R. 1940 has not gone anywhere; his opponent, Democrat Tom Perriello, noted that similar legislation did not even make it out of committee when the Republicans controlled Congress, and that the Republican leadership, including then-President George W. Bush and then-Republican Presidential nominee John McCain, did not support the bill either.
^^of course things like this never stopped anyone from seeking greener pastures. Since a lot of the world's development is concentrated in the west. Compared to the gigantic number of people from underdeveloped countries. No electricity, no running water, bad roads, etc.
sorry i don't know such people in my life and when people like me are paying close to £1k in tax alone that excluding national insurance u get my annoyance at people who abuse the system and i am told to wait 4 hours in a&e and questioned about my status even thou i'm a citizen (guess they can't see past my colour) anyway my point is this if i left england today to live in nigeria for 6 months i would be entitiled to nothing even thou i have lived here over 25 years and pay over £11k tax and NI however, these fraudsters (yes that is what they are) come here use the system they have paid nothing towards and go and pose in naija claiming my child was born in london
all these people asking what gives u the right to use uk health care system, justwise and others, I am sure you or some very close relative of you has abused that sytem at some point either having been here on holiday and seeking treatment or something every1 abuses the nhs, yes a few people pay high taxes, but i dnt mind if people abuse it cos u cannot put a price on health.
What country do you want to go? There are some embassies that will not bother to see your face if you submit all the right documents and they will not ask you in their application form if you are pregnant or not, nor ask you to do pregnancy test. At least I know UK for certain. My friend’s wife applied for UK visitor visa after she got pregnant (4 months), she went to UK 2 months to her delivery, delivered in UK and came back to Naija after the delivery.
Giving birth to your child in the UK does not make them British Citizens unless
the parent are already british Citizens by naturalisation or bith before 1983,
But i guess the NHS or Private clinic where your friend gave birth needed the
cash lol!!! so its all good to the UK economy, Give birth Here just dont claim any form
of citizen-ship of welfare lol!!!
very interesting topic cos i was watching the uk border agency the other day and a british imigration official turned down an 8 mnths pregnant woman frm boarding a ba flight via london to the usa despite the fact the womans final destination was the USA, so my advise is do proper research before boarding any plane
as an impartial person if you are looking for citizenship maybe you should consider ireland and other eu countries forget the uk dnt know what he laws are there now but i dnt think its like in the uk were d baby will only get a birth certificate
Well, it no more news that people often derail from what the discussion really entails here. I'm glad I'm getting more used to it than i used to, but i think we still need to avoid the use of some explicit words and vague expression.
I don't think you'll be issued a visa, though it depends on which country you are making your trip to, and how important it is to make that trip.
I dont see why you cannot apply for a visa. Restriction on travel when pregnant is depends on the airline and country of destination. For the former, mainly based on health and safety reasons in case there is a crisis mid air that requires medical attention. For the latter, health insurance, immigration reason mainly.
Absolutely truth and nothing but the truth. I did the same many years ago, alright? Without it, mine wouldn't have legs to stand and now, see them benefit and enjoy and even take for granted the lifestyle they have now. Imagine the way Nigeria is today - people suffering like HELL! It has always been the case, parents sacrificing alot for their children and this is exactly what this young lady is trying to do for her future and kid. God will open the way for her because, he is a God of IMPOSSIBILITY made POSSIBLE!
Of course YES if its UK cos you will not appear, but be sure of how you will get in when you are eventually given the visa cos you might be turned back at the airport if immigration officers notice and are not convinced of your intentions. If you are eventually allowed in you will need to pay about 1,000 plus GBP for normal delivery or 3,000 plus GBP for CS and of course your child gets nothing aside from the british birth certificate.
Thats the point here, nobody is stopping her from using her money to get what she wants. If she doesn't have enough money for the trip then its going to be tough one for her, last yr or 2 ago a nigerian woman was refused life saving operation in the uk here cos she came on a visitor's visa and over stayed. Her pregnacy was due, unfortunately she needed an urgent medical attention, she died and the news were everywhere, pple were angry with NHS. Its not a good experience.
I have a friend who traveled at 7 months pregnant, she wore traditional African attire so that no one will see her stomach. She will be giving birth in 2 months time and then going back to naija after, she wants her child to have U.S. citizenship, but she can afford it sha. Plus she's a banker in naija so they know that she will be coming back.
My friend traveled by herself. Her hubbie is in Naija.
Why not? Go ahead and apply whether you are travelling with a boyfriend or not or a husband, you need not restrict yourself. Afterall, you're a person in your own right so, do it! As far as all your travelling documents are correct and intact and, you have enough finance to fund yourself when you get there etc, I can not see why you shouldn't apply for a visa simply because you're pregnant afterall, the pregnancy is not due yet. So, why limit you self and your progress by thinking negatively? Go, girl go! You would be suprised! Good luck!